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Posted: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 4:25 PM
Joined: 3/20/2009
Posts: 28


 Hi All,

By request, we have added the "American West" forum, thanks to "cec" for the suggestion!

Enjoy!


ogi
Posted: Thursday, May 21, 2009 2:08 AM
Joined: 5/21/2009
Posts: 2


I have heard a lot about the mountain men/fur trappers but haven't seen much on them. Is there anything written on the lifestyles and battles fought and what happened to them when the fur trade died. They seem like hard men that basically explored and blazed the trail in the west, discovered alot of the glories of the west, as far as europeans go, but have been forgotten. 


Brad Spychalski
Posted: Thursday, May 21, 2009 10:58 AM
Joined: 4/1/2009
Posts: 13


Hey, ogi,

 

Google has been digitizing thousands of books for free online reading. Hereherehere, and here are some specifically on mountain men and fur trappers that might interest you. Did I mention they're free!

 

Good luck,

 

Brad


patton
Posted: Thursday, July 02, 2009 12:37 AM
Joined: 5/26/2009
Posts: 3


ogie; Not so much on reading material of the mountain men, but I think a fairly decent movie was 'Jermiah Johnson' with Robert Redford. If you haven't seen it, you ought to, perty good movie.
manatee55
Posted: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 7:12 PM
Joined: 7/3/2009
Posts: 1


Hi,
I think there is quite a bit of material.  I have read a few books recently on a number of trappers.  The University of Nebraska Lincoln Press (www.bisonbooks.com) publishes a massive catalog of western history books. 
Enjoy!

dbastounes
Posted: Saturday, July 18, 2009 3:07 PM
Joined: 7/18/2009
Posts: 2


Is there anyone who has a list of the first Black Seminole Indian scouts at Fort Clark TX?
michaelhighfill
Posted: Thursday, July 30, 2009 4:53 PM
Joined: 7/30/2009
Posts: 1


Hey ogi and all who have replied, All I know about fur trappers is that is was a trapperwho discoverd Crater Lake In Oregon. (Oregon's only national Park) and it was not until the begining of the 20th Century that anyone besides the local Native Americans knew it was there. It was held as a HHoly sit for them and only elder Shaman were ever allowed to gaze upon it's beauty. So that is at least one contribution of fur traders I am aware of.
Armybeatnavy618
Posted: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 2:52 PM
Joined: 10/14/2009
Posts: 3


"John Horse, John Kibbetts, Cuffy, three Factors-Hardy, Thomas, and Dembo, Sampson July, and Jim Bowlegs headed the early Seminole maroon community in Coahuila. John Horse remained the undisputed head of the Mascogos, and the Mexican authorities referred to him as Capitán of the group. John Kibbetts, formerly owned by the Seminole Kubichee, was his military second-in-command, and Hardy Factor, his counselor. The maroons recognized Cuffy, who had played a leading role in the Walking Joe incident at Wewoka in June 1849, as leader in the absence of John Horse. Horse's leading advisers were Thomas and Dembo Factor and Sampson July, the uncles and brother respectively of his wife Susan, and Jim Bowlegs, his successor as leader of the Seminole blacks in the Indian Territory. Prominent women in the maroon community at Nacimiento were Susan and Juana, the wife and sister of John Horse; Nancy Kibbetts, the wife of John Kibbetts; and Nancy Kibbetts's daughter Kitty Johnson." Not sure if this is it, but just found it on a webstie quoted by Kevin Mulroy who wrote:

FREEDOM ON THE BORDER: The Seminole Maroons in Florida, the Indian Territory, Coahuila, and Texas. Lubbock: Texas Tech University Press, 1993.

Not sure if it helps?


ogi
Posted: Thursday, October 29, 2009 2:33 AM
Joined: 5/21/2009
Posts: 2


To all who replied with info on the mountain men. Thank you for the info. I have looked up some of the info you gave me and it was informative. I also found out about a museum of the mountain men in Pinedale, Wyoming. Also found out they still hold Rendevous like back in the day when they sold their furs. Everyone dresses in the periods clothes and gear. I first got into the mountain men when I read a western by William W. Johnstone, "The First Mountain Man". This was the first time I ever heard of them and started looking them up. This was a really rough and tough bunch of men and their lives are really interesting and diverse.
 

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